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December 21, 2009

ఎనీ డౌట్స్ - తామావాలా

Every time Telangana people open their mouths, many people raise some concerns and doubts. Some of these doubting Toms don’t know the historical background of Telangana, some others don’t understand political strategies and outcomes. Some are protecting selfish interests while others think they are protecting unity of Telugu speaking people. Whatever the motives and basis for these doubts or questions and concerns, investigating and finding appropriate answers backed by facts, is essential.

1)Why do we need a separate state of Telangana? The demand for a separate state of Telangana isn’t new. Telanganites have very clearly expressed their opposition a decade before Andhra Pradesh was formed. They reasoned that in a united Andhra Pradesh they will not get justice, which was also supported by the recommendations of first SRC. Even after five decades, this demand is continuing. The reason for this is the experience of past 50+ years that justice will not be done to Telangana and belief that it will continue to be denied to Telanganites in united AP.

2)Why do people with one language need two states? Doesn’t if affect the unity of Telugu Speaking people? If one language, one state is the norm, why do we have 9-Hindhi speaking states? Next to Hindi, Telugu is the most spoken language in India. What is wrong with having two states that speak Telugu? Some people claim that Telangana Telugu isn’t the proper Telugu. Some others say it isn’t even Telugu. Why should these people that make fun of Telangana language and ridicule its culture should be objecting if Telangana is separate state? And what were the people and leaders who support Samaikandhra doing until today. Why didn’t they resign when their party leadership supported the cause of separate Telangana and resigned only after the central Govt. declared Telangana? Why did they change their stand overnight? Isn’t it being opportunistic? What did the people who are worried about the unity of telugu speaking language do to unite Yanam ( a telugu speaking town of Pondicherry near East Godavari district) in Andhra Pradesh? They didn’t fight for it because there is nothing to benefit from Yanam while there is a lot to benefit from Telangana. Then why this drama of all telugu speaking people should be united? If they think that the formation of Telangana will divide us all then I would say that we telugu people are already divided in Andhra Pradesh. The division is clearly seen in politics, Employment, Water allotment and also in America where we have more than one telugu organizations. If we really want to be united these boundaries regional, caste etc does not matter.

3. Isn’t separation of Andhra Pradesh, equivalent to showing disrespect to Sri Potti Sriramulu who fought for Andhrapradesh? The sacrifice made by Sri Potti Sriramulu for the creation of Andhra state is definitely laudable; however people often mistaken and gives him the credit for the merger of Telangana and Andhra state to form Andhra Pradesh. By this misconception, people often say don't let Sriramulu's sacrifices go to waste by creating Telangana state by dividing Andhra Pradesh. He actually fought for the formation of Andhra state (current Andhra + Seema) with madras as capital. Because of his efforts On 1 October 1953, the state of Andhra was established with Kurnool as capital carving it out from Madras State. Whereas Andhra Pradesh was formed on November 1, 1956, by merging Telangana with Andhra with Hyderabad as its capital, much against the recommendation of States Reorganization Commission (SRC).

4. Why didn’t the Chief Ministers that came from Telangana area work to develop Telangana? It is true that PV Narasimha Rao, Marri Chenna Reddy (twice), T. Anjiah from Telangana were Chief Ministers of AP. Altogether they were in power for 6-years in four terms. It is also true they haven’t made any noticeable development of Telangana. Jalagam Vengal Rao was a settler. He never assimilated himself in Telangana. He is credited with the disservice to Telangana by extending Nagarjun Sagar left canal. Then what about, Rayala Seema? There were stalwarts from Rayala seems that were in power for twenty five years. (N. Sanjeeva Reddy-2terms, Damodaram Sanjeeviah, K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy-2 terms, CB Naidu-2 terms,). Why is Rayalaseema backward? Fact is they slaved for the Coastal Andhra wealth and the privileged few of these wealthy that control the politics of the state. Fazal Ali commission (Head of the first SRC ) recognized the consequences of mixing a developed area with a backward area and recommended that Telangana be kept as a separate state. If this country’s politicians had the wherewithal to listen to the wise men, we wouldn’t be in this situation!

5.Isn’t it detrimental to Indian national unity if small states are continuously created? Out of the 35 states currently in India (28 states and 7 central possessions), 70% are smaller than Telangana. Telangana’s population is 30 million plus. There are 25 states that are smaller than Telangana. If these twenty-five don’t cause national unity issues, why would creation of a larger state be any dangerous?. Or if you think that larger states strengthens the unity of the nation, then why name just form a very large single state of India, then India will be the strongest.

6. What would you do if the backward districts in Telangana want a separate state of their own after formation of Telangana state? Backwardness of Telangana is a major reason for the Telangana state demand but not the sole reason. All ten Telangana districts have same historical background, geographic closeness, cultural commonality, language unity, and mutual understanding among the people. These factors are all foundation for unity of thought. Never did the people of Telangana districts express a desire or sentiment to be separate from the rest of the districts directly or indirectly. There isn’t an opportunity for such either.

7. In our country there are some other backward districts in various states. Are they all demanding a separate statehood? It is meaning less and baseless argument. The demand for separate Telangana is not only because of backwardness but also for the sake of self respect and self governance as the Telangana people are always looked down upon and marginalized. If it was only for development then India would have never fought for independence from the British rule as they were developing the infrastructure even though for their own benefit.

8. Isn’t a separate state, a nation dividing, people separating, demand? If the desire of a people of a region to have their own state is a divisive act, then all states formation is a divisive act. In fact language based state formation itself is a divisive act. Same reasons that Potti Sriramulu the architect for separation of Andhra from Madras state, presented are the reasons Telanganites want their own state. The same argument used by the Andhras in the past is used by Telanganites now. If it was not an objectionable demand then how could it be objectionable now? 8. How long should states division continue? Staes re-organization is a continuing activity in India. Even before Fazal Ali commission this process has started, Example: Formation of Andhra, split from Madras. It has been continuing ever since, Ex: Eastern states division, Maharastra,Gujrath, Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jarkhand, Uttaranchal, Chattisghad. Why should there be any objections for Telangana formation when there were no such objections for these states formation?

9. There are other backward areas in the state. Why should only Telangana people have a separate state of their own? Just as Telangana, Rayalaseema and north Andhra have been discriminated. True. But, additionally Telangana has been systemically robbed. Diversion of this regions natural resources, water, under ground resources and their income to other areas, the robbing of jobs from the region’s people, Colonization aren’t directed at other areas. Additionally the Telanganites have been subject to ridicule with respect to the language and the politicians have been looked down upon to the extent they lost their own self image. To preserve their self respect and to protect their region’s natural resources, people of Telangana want their own state.

10. Aren’t Naxalites the cause of Telangana’s backwardness? Only people that don’t understand or like to conveniently ignore historical facts would ask such questions. Naxals aren’t the cause of Telangana backwardness. They are an effect of Telangana backwardness. Naxals came up in Telangana due to this region has been subject to continues neglect and systematic theft of its resources. • If Naxals are the reason, then districts where Naxals activity is less should be more developed than those with strong Naxals presence. Then why is it that Mahabubnagar where naxals presence was low is further behind Naxals strong holds of Karimnagar, Warangal and Nizamabad? • Similarly, why is Vizag one of the important centers of Naxals activity is a flourishing industrial center not just in state but also in the country? • How is the Kothagudem thermal station which is in the middle of forested area able to complete its expansion under the schedule? • How is National thermal electric center in Ramagundam (even though its electricity isn’t used for Telangana) operating without any problems? • How is the coal from Singareni mines being mined and sent to Andhra and Rayalaseema? • How are Andhra settlers that bought off locals are able to flourish safely and prosperously in many Telangana areas? • In Warangal forests how is AP rayons, a private factory, operating? • How are the cement factories in Nalgonda singareni coal belt, those established by the Andhra Capitalists, able to operate and make profits? • Who is responsible for the closure of Ajamjhahi mills, Sirpur sirsilk mills, Anthargam spinning mills, DBR mills, Alwyn factories, Republic forge, Nizam Sugar Factories, Fourteen milk cooling plants? Didn’t Naxals object to such irresponsible Government mismanagement? • If Naxals are the cause of Telangana backwardness, how is the current Government who promised to complete all pending projects within three years in Telangana going to do it? • The cause of 1969 Telangana revolution was the Governments partiality. There were no Naxals then. • Who doesn’t know that the powers that are used to the stealing of Telangana resources and neglecting Telangana for the past 48 years want to continue to do the same, and are using Naxals as an excuse? Otherwise why would the Government that started talks as a response to people’s wishes is throwing stones in the talks process?

11. Instead of asking for a separate state, why can’t you fight for development within the frame work of united AP? Whenever the slogan for the separate Telangana is raised, only then people talk of developing it. And this is not the first time; the promises of Telangana development have been made for the past 50 years in united AP. Before and after the formation of AP, Which promises were kept? Which agreements were respected? Which projects were implemented? Which principles were they bound to? From the first day of AP formation, till to-day, agreements are being broken. What were the united AP wishers do? Did they even express any concerns? How long should the Telangana people bear this and put up with this injustice?

12. Isn’t separate Telangana state an anti-Andhra people’s movement? Emphatically NO. Telangana people don’t bear any animosity against the coastal Andhra or Rayalaseema people or the ordinary migrants from those areas to Telangana. Telangana people’s anger is with: The rulers that are raping Telangana resources, with their supporters in Andhra and also from Telangana. Those that came to Telangana and think they are the rulers of Telangana. Those that control the state Government with their financial strength and rob Telangana, those that ridicule Telangana language, culture and their mannerisms. All those that become a part of Telangana and share in the happiness and sorrow of Telangana with the locals are welcomed and, respected and loved.

13. What is there to be gained by the SC, ST and weaker sections in separate Telangana? What did these groups gain in united AP in 50 years? Apart from Sanjeeviah being CM for few months, when did any of these classes have any power? What is the status of these peoples leadership? What is the attitude of current Congress, BJP, both the communist parties, TDP? Not only the weaker sections, even the forward classes of Telangana, do they have any opportunity to exert any real power? For these classes to gain power they have to become active. For the past few years these people are rising, becoming active. No matter how active they become, in the united AP, not only these but other classes of people will also not progress. At least the forward class in Telangana have come to realization that it is unavoidable in the society for all people to a rightful share in the political power. Because of this there is opportunity in Separate Telangana for true democracy represented by all people, to prevail.

14. Andhras have built Hyderabad. Is it fair to ask them to leave it now? Hyderabad was a beautiful city built by Nizam on the sweat of Telangana villagers over a period of 400 years. One of the reasons Andhras eyed Telangana was Hyderabad- a ready made beautiful Capital city. It was fifth largest city before AP was formed and it still is fifth largest city. If Andhras contributed to Hyderabad, it was not out of love for Telangana but was for the convenience of the rich Andhras that have made Hyderabad their home. Hydearabd is still growing but not only from Andhras coming to settle but from the middle classes and forward classes of Telangana moving to the city for security and for services and livelihood, as the village economy in Telangana is all but destroyed by neglect of the ruling class, and failure of monsoons. Besides, nobody is asking anybody to leave any place. India is a free country and anybody can go and stay and pursue their livelihood anywhere in India. Hyderabad is a cosmopolitan city and people from many languages and all states of India call it their home. Also, this isn’t a separation of people like Pakistan and India. It is merely a separation of political and administrative machinery so people of Telangana can control their own destiny. The settlers are welcome to stay, contribute and share in the success of Telangana.

TAMAwala

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

TAMAwala, Anyone can do copy & paste

http://www.telangana.org/TelanganaFAQ.asp

Try to come up with something of your own.




Blog Admin, Try to do some googling before you publish every content that you get.

RP said...

I am from Coastal Andhra. I know the injustices done to Telangana. I do not think there is any force that can stop from Telngana becoming a state now!

You make a lot of sense Tamawala. Anyone who follows your reasoning on this subject has to rethink his/her ways. There is always going to be good and bad in the society that we are part off. There were enormous mistakes caused by rulers over a period of time. I understand the pain of Telangana people. But in my heart, I think YS Rajasekhara Reddy would have been more committed to cleanse a lot of blunders committed by other governments by developing Telangana and implementing just rules to give confidence to the people of Telangana. Alas, he is no longer amongst us. And I do not see one leader across the state that is half tall as he is. In a way, we can not put faith in any one to have these unjust acts cleansed up in future. So the separation of Telangana is the only way, as I see it.

But remember, it's not just the Andhra people, as you telanganites call them are the only people that would exploit the innocent Telangana people. There are your own telangana people who screwed too. How else can you Tamawala explain me the support a dagulbaajee leader like KCR got after all the selfish and criminal acts? If he is the representative of your Telangana state, then Telangana people may be better off in United Andhra Pradesh!

I wish Telangana would be lead by smart and selfless people in to its new era!

Thanjs, Gurava Reddy

Anonymous said...

Only rich people and Doralu (Velamas, Reddy and Goud) asking for separate Telangana. We do not hear any voice from poor backward section people, muslims or christians. These people are feared for their life for speaking out. They really scared to death and may see Dorala and Patella Pethanam in their villages.

Common people are fearing that Hindu and Muslim fundamentalism will raise after Telangana state. Hindus are fearing that razakar movement will start in Telangana State because in some areas muslim population will go up more than 50 %. Because of raise in muslim fundamentalism (razakar movement) to counter this Hindu fundamentalism will raise.

Christians fearing that Orissa kind of experiments will happen in Telangana State.

It is not as simple as some NRI will thinking about formation of Telangana State. About 70% of Telangana rural people think that they safer in Andhra Pradesh than Telangana State. If you do not believe it go and talk to Telangana village people. First they will tell you what ever you educated people think, it will happen. But after couple of days or months or years of acquaintance, once they trust you and then they will express their true feelings.

It is other side story of Telangana people.

Unknown said...

Dear Gurava Reddy,
It's not just KCR, many of the Telangana politicians who are now openly supporting the separate state are dangerous too, they kept quite and chanted development mantra as long as they were enjoying power in the last 5 yrs.
People of Telangana are not immature as in 1969, otherwise KCR would have ended the fast on the second day itself, he would also have bagged 25 MLA and 5 MP seats in 2009 elections.
I appreciate your support.

Devanand said...

I would like to clarify something first. My mom was born in another country but her family is from Rajahmundry. My dad's ancestors were apparently from Chittoor but he was born in Madras. I was born in Vijayawada and like to call Hyderabad home since all my memories since 10th grade were over there. Actually I would love to call any part of India home without being branded. My great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great ancestors were all from some where near Gujarat and were all migrants to this place. So were yours. Oops sorry yours and my ancestors just happened to wipe out the native population of this area and reduce them to almost nothing.

Telangana probably should have been formed long ago and the current mess is a result of the asinine "visionaries" in our country. However here is what I am very concerned about. I hear the term "migrants"/"settlers". This is a very disturbing term. So are all the "migrants" from Andhra supposed to feel different in "Telangana"?
Arguments like Andhra people did not invest in Hyderabad for love the Telangana are only counter productive. So the Telangana's loved it when the Nizam was breaking their back to build the city? Maybe they should have fought against the Indian Police to stay with the Nizam.
I have heard a story from a friend from Telangana who narrated a story about how a farm worker's son in his village was killed because he wanted to go to school. So all of this is suddenly going to stop once Telangana is formed?
From Alpharetta and surrounding cities Milton and Johns Creek were formed. Do we hear them say, yeah we want Milton because we "Miltonites" want to govern ourselves and you "Alpharettites" are migrants to this area? Federalism is quite miserable in India. Self governance which is so fundamental in a democracy is non existant. It is sad that the reason to form Telangana is not for "Self Governance" by the people of "Telangana" area, whether they be "Andhra", "Telangana", "Malayali", "Bihari" etc etc. You get the drift.
Yes Telangana should be formed for the purpose of self governance and for the sake of people living in that area. And anyone should be welcome to live in that area without being branded Telangana, Andhra etc. Once you start branding people then you start drawing battle lines.

If we have a "Feudal" mindset "Feudalism" is what we will get.

- Dev

RP said...

It's not where Tamawala got the info from and pasted it. Does it make sense? Is it true? If the answers are yes for both of them, then the case must be rested! Gurava Reddy

Anonymous said...

Ila gaali kaburlu kaadhu statistics chusukondi. Telangana districts are way ahead of districts from other parts of the state.

Mee naayakula chetha kaani thanaanni saati telugu vaadi dhopidi anukovaddu. Edho anyayam chesesaru, dhochesaru anevi chethakaani vaallu ane maatalu.

Idhi Andhra Pradesh ani, Hyderabad mana capital ani decide cheyyaka poi unte evvadu Hyderabad lo adugu pettevaadu kuda kaadhu. Eee roju meetho eee sodhi vinalsina paristhithi undedhi kaadhu.

Mee Telangana ni evvadu hate cheyyatledhu. Meeku separate state ivvataaniki evvadiki emi problem ledhu. Only issue here is people from Andhra and Rayalaseema are struck in Hyderabad with their investments under the false hood of one state(Andhra Pradesh). Give them some time to take their investments and move out. After that I am sure no one opposes your Telangana state formation.

Unknown said...

My Answer to Anonymous who said Telangana demand is only from Rich and Doralu:

Do you think Andhra people are keeping peace in Telangana and they are giving better life to lower castes and Muslims? wow, nice try dude. What do you say about Chundur and Karamchedu massacre?
Castism is in our blood and it takes another few generations to completely wipe it out.

Who is responsible for the last communal riots we have seen in Hyderabad in 1989?
It is some filthy thinking and wrong propaganda that communal clashes will increase in Telangana. Do you know the meaning of Razakars? it is the military of Nizam, Telangana will be ruled by democratically elected govt not by Nizam or MIM.
Do you think Muslims are having better life in AP? more than any caste they are the ones mostly affected by the formation of AP.

For your kind information majority of NRI's favoring samaikyandhra because either they have vested interest in Hyderabad or they are unaware of the history and root cause of separate state.

I have a confidence that even after separation Hyderabad will remain peaceful and continue to be home for people and businessmen from all over India.

Anonymous said...

Kasim Razvi before leaving to Pakistan handed over Razakar movement to now MIM chief grand father. After it has formed as MIM to protect the interests of Muslims. After 1983 NTR government, because of influx of Andhra People, in Hyderabad put a check mate to Muslim people. Because of equal forces we are seeing peace in Hyderabad and other places. Riots in 1989 is completely politically motivated and it did not have long drawn effect because of balancing forces.

I should appreciate NTR for making Hyderabad as Telugu CIty. Otherwise we all will be start speaking Urdu.

If Andhra People leaves Telangana then MIM and BJP will be drawing swords each other. This will leads to Muslim Fundamentalism or Razakar movement from MIM and also Hindu Fundamentalism raise from BJP. This is the sole reason BJP supporting smaller states.

Because of all hidden after effects are involved minorities and people are not supporting separate Telangana.

Tamawala, Telangana was ruled by Nizam for 400 years, before Indian government took control over it. According to your logic, we should hand over Telangana to Nizam dynasty people?

Unknown said...

I am not Mohan Babu to say that.

True, Nizam ruled Telangana for long but Telangana people did fought with Nizam for the independence and thousands of lives were lost in that struggle. The day Telangana was freed with the help of Indian Army whole Telangana celebrated.
If the Govt of AP declared Sept 17 "Telangana Vimochanadinam" as a official celebration similar to "Sri Potti Sriramulu vardhanti" current generations would know the history. For some unknown reason(I think mainly because Communists and BJP will be benefited from that, neither Congress nor TDP wanted to give credit to those two parties) it is still being ignored. This is one other reason many people like my self demand respect for Telangana. After all those thousands of people who sacrificed their lives must get some respect.

Yes, the credit for keeping peace in Hyderabad must go to NTR.
What will happen if Hyd is made separate state? won't MIM and BJP become strong?

Anonymous said...

Tamawala and all Telangana NRI's,
You are settler in USA, people in USA feels same as or worse for all Indians similar to all Telangana Fundamentalists feels about Andhra People in Telangana.

Please do not support TRS Terror acts, If you are financing for these organizations, Then you will be part of it

Anonymous said...

Tamawala,
You did not know that how Razakar played Bathukamma in Telangana ?
They have made our fore mothers nude, played bathukamma, raped them and burned them alive. If you do not know the history do not talk about it.

Do you know how Velama Doralu and Reddy Patellu treated lower caste people ?
Lower caste people did not have guts to wear shoes in front of these doralu and patellu. Lower caste people are not allowed in the high caste people houses. Because of these reasons naxalism was born in Telangana.

All these Velama Doralu and Reddy Patellu are thrown our from Telangana districts and then they have settled in Banjara Hills .

Now also these Velama Doralu and Reddy Patellu only people asking for Telangana State.

Mr. Tamawala, first know the facts and then talk about.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,
are you paid by Andhrawala's? do you know what you are talking? Don't think Tamawala is supporting Razakar's or Doralu.
You should read the content in full before responding.Neelanti vaallane "Telangana Kalupumokkalu" anedi.

My forefathers fought against Razakars, and we are REDDY's but not involved in Telangana fight to retain dorathanam.
Currently only 10% of land is cultivated in our village due to lack of water or power. When I was child 90% of my village was green even though they were depending on rain and pumping well water using bullocks (traditional "mota", hope you knew it). Our lands were taken for factories for peanuts by Govt, no alternate land provided. We were promised Godavari water and even after 30 yrs not a single drop reached our village. Do you want us to believe in Andhra dominant govt and lay our life's down for their own growth?
You people are worried about Hyderabad, Andhra people have 50 yrs of attachment with the city but Telangana has 400 yrs of love. Only those so called rich Politicians, businessmen and NRI's are worried about losing Hyederabad because they can not see them self living under Telangana govt because they hate Telangana people, language, culture. If their affection to the city is real who is stopping them from living in Telangana Hyderabad?

Anonymous said...

TAMAwala might be out of project. No work. Always seen commenting fulltime on this site.. Way to go tamawala.

Unknown said...

Neither I am workless nor I am TRS supporter. I am pure telangana supporter just for developement and equal opportunities. I defer on many things with the current politicians on Telangana including using the words "Settler", "Andhrawala baago".
I am only against those industrialists who acquire telangana land for cheap and gets all subsidies, uses telangana water, power to run the factories but employees only Andhra people. If they go to Tamilnadu or Maharastra they will be forced to employ certain % of locals. 90% of andhra industries in Telangana don't provide atleast 10% of jobs to locals except daily labor work.

I have witnessed many sad stories in Telangana same time I have many friends in seemandhra.
My intention is not to satisfy my ego or hurt the feelings of any one.I am making all my statements with much thinking and sense. I am open for discussions on any of my statements.
From the start of Telangana discussions I am begging many samaikyandhra supporters to provide one valid reason to stay together but not seen any thing other than Telugu unity. In my opinion we will be united as long as we are Indians.

Chandra Mohan said...

Brothers,
KCR whether you agree or not is a leader having maximum popularity in Telangana(DO not come up with wrong logistics about the election results. When commenting try to look at Late YSR? Is it not true that he was a perpectual Dissident for atleast four chief ministers? Is it not true that he was responsible for throwing chappals on Prime Ministers and chief Ministers? Is it not true that he was the architect of 1990 Communal roits in Hyderabad? Do we have any other chief minister in the History of Andhra Pradesh more corrupt? Look at Jagan. signatures were collected beside the ded body of his father. When you guys could bear such great leaders and at the same time make us accept these greedy political bosses to lead the state, what's wrong in accepting leaders from Telangana? Since all your fear about future Telangana state are speculative, I suggest you better concentrate on Future Chief Minister for the Andhra state.
It would be in the interest of every one and all to refrain from spreading hatred by using unhealthy language on leaders from the other side.

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